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A woman chosen to go to from Kampot to Phnom Penh in April 1978 said
that upon arrival she studied at Ph5 for a week with Chuon Cheuan,
before starting to treat patients. During this same week, there
were also political indoctrination classes, taught by Nuon Chea and
Ieng Thirith, the latter stressing the importance of taking good
care of the patients and of being tolerant with them. The woman
believed that Ph5, near the train station, was the ministry of
health. Hundreds attended the class taught by Ieng Thirith, the
students coming from the Southwest, Northwest and West Zones. After
her week's induction, she was assigned to the 6 January hospital.
She recalled Peuan being the chairman of 6 January hospital and that
his wife Minh was at the ministry. She stated she was unaware of
any arrests when she was in Phnom Penh, although she heard that
traitors were arrested and disappeared.
A woman medic from East Zone Sector 22 came with her husband, also a
medic, to Phnom Penh after 17 April 1975. According to her
biography, she worked for a year and a half at the Ph-2
pharmaceutical plant and then another year and a half to the Ph-12.
Her superior at Ph-2 was deemed a traitor, and by late 1978, she no
longer knew the whereabouts of three of her four superiors at Ph-12:
Ret, Saen and Ean, although the fourth-ranked Ph-12 cadre, Von, was
still in place. Her testimony establishes that Ieng Thirith was in
a position to have direct knowledge of her subordinates' welfare and
also depicts Nuon Chea as maintaining direct surveillance over
Ph-2. It implicates Ieng Thirith directly in the removal of Ph-2
pharmaceutical factory chairman Seum Savan, suggesting that it was
Ieng Thirith who decided on this. It also implicates Thirith
directly in denunciation of senior cadre declared traitors,
including Thirith's deputy Leng Sei and Social Action Committee
member Pov Sou. However, although this interviewee heavily implies
it, she does not specify whether Ieng Thirith knew this meant that
they were executed.
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