Kaem Nhâ

 

 

 

According to a Kampot woman who was transferred from Srae Ambel to Phnom Penh, probably in 1978, she attended a gathering of all ministries at the stadium addressed by Pol Pot, with Nuon Chea and Ieng Sary present.  Pol Pot talked about the Vietnamese invasion, calling on everyone not to be defeatist, to work and struggle hard, to absolutely not be defeated by enemy policies.  She was then sent to work in at the 6 January hospital near Voat Phnum.  She and many others were assigned to change places with the Easterners, explaining the Easterners were sent to Srae Ambel while the Southwesterners were sent to the hospital.  This was in the context of it being announced that Sao Pheum was a traitor. Nhâ recalled that it was Pol Pot himself -- in his speech at the stadium -- who declared Sao Pheum a traitor, but this was repeated in subsequent meetings at which the exchange of Easterners and Southwesterners was laid out.  She worked as a cook at 6 January, which was chaired by Peuan, who was married to Ieng Sary's daughter.  She recalled that Ieng Thirith was known as Phea and spoke beautifully.  This source describing her as fat and light complexioned, with glasses, saying she was the "big chair" who convening meetings of all components.  The bald-headed doctor Chuon Cheuan accompanied her, also giving instruction.  They spoke about politics, the need not to be duped by the enemy and enemy tricks. [1]

 

A woman sent from the Kampung Saom rubber plantations to Phnom Penh in June 1977 recalled she went first to "32," the former Chinese hospital, which was still being used as some kind of medical facility.  She stayed there only a few days before being assigned to Po-1 during a meeting convened by Das, who chaired 32.  She was among 30 or 40 new arrivals from Srae Ambel who were sent to Po-1, which was located along the street leading to Chroy Changvar bridge.   At this time, Po-1 was a birthing and infants' hospital.   It was for the children of cadre and troops.  Prompted, this source remembered that Po-1 was chaired by Minh, who was constantly in touch with all parts of the hospital.   She also remembered that an older, fat, light-complexioned, woman wearing glasses was also around, but she did not recall who this woman was or what she did.   She stated that while in Phnom Penh, she had no knowledge of executions there, although her biography noted that her immediate superior at Po-1, Thi, had been deemed a "traitor."[2]

 


 

[1] Kaem Nhâ, interviewed aged 48 in Angkor Chey district, Kampot province.

[2] Paen Tauch, interviewed in Angkor Chey district, Kampot province on 12 July 2004.